Title: Huge Balcony with Bay & Gulf Views on the 5th Floor and a LAZY RIVER & CABANAS!! Reviews, Deals & Photos 2026 - Expedia.co.uk [See all properties](http://www.expedia.co.uk/Hotel-Search?regionId=&selected=22144510&adults=2&children=&sort=RECOMMENDED&useRewards=false&semdtl=&userIntent=&vip=false) Entire condo # Huge Balcony with Bay & Gulf Views on the 5th Floor and a LAZY RIVER & CABANAS!! ## Photo gallery for Huge Balcony with Bay & Gulf Views on the 5th Floor and a LAZY RIVER & CABANAS!! ![Indoor pool, a heated pool - Huge Balcony with Bay & Gulf Views on the 5th Floor and a LAZY RIVER & CABANAS!! (Orange Beach)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/23000000/22150000/22144600/22144510/485b29b1.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=598&ra=fit) ![Indoor pool, a heated pool - Huge Balcony with Bay & Gulf Views on the 5th Floor and a LAZY RIVER & CABANAS!! 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(Orange Beach)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/23000000/22150000/22144600/22144510/ac01c626.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) - Overview - Location - Amenities - Policies Take advantage of a water park, an arcade/games room and laundry facilities at Huge Balcony with Bay & Gulf Views on the 5th Floor and a LAZY RIVER & CABANAS!!. Adventurous travellers may like the cycling at this condo. For some rest and relaxation, visit the sauna or the hot tub. Stay connected with in-room WiFi, and guests can find other amenities, such as a gym. ## Reviews 9.8 Exceptional ### Entire condo 2 bedrooms2 bathroomsSleeps 61600 sq ft ## Popular amenities - Ocean view - Pool - Kitchen - Washing machine - Dryer ## Add dates for prices Check-in Check-out Travellers ## About this property ### Entire place You'll have the entire condo to yourself and will only share it with other guests in your party. ### Huge Balcony with Bay & Gulf Views on the 5th Floor and a LAZY RIVER & CABANAS!! Caribe D Building Unit #516....Your family will love this professionally decorated 2 Bedroom, 2 Bathroom condo that sleeps 6 with a KING in the Master, KING in the Guest Bedroom and a Queen Size Sofa Sleeper in the Living Room. The private balcony overlooks the Bay AND the Gulf and is accessed from the Master Bedroom and the Living Room. There are 9-foot ceilings throughout with floor-to-ceiling windows, wet bar, garden tub in the master bath and full-size washer and dryer. The fully stocked kitchen has upscale stainless steel appliances, a standard coffee maker AND a Keurig! Caribe in Orange Beach has the most amenities on the island... \*NEW rentable CABANAS with a poolside Tiki Bar! Cabana includes Smart TV, mini fridge, charging outlets and drink service. \*NEW Cobalt Coffee & Cafe in our D Building \*Beach Trolley Service...there are two new trolleys, Nemo & Dory and, a new crew member named Tango. You may see Tango strolling the bay walk, and occasionally taking a trolley ride! Trolleys run year-round \* 2 outdoor salt water pools with zero entry and interactive fountains that spray up (bubble bars) that the younger kids love! \* Upper deck pool has a tiered pool with shallow section tier great for small kids to sit & splash in! \* Brand new LAZY RIVER!!! \* Pirate-ship playground located near the B Tower outside of the pool slide \* Indoor heated pools \* Putting Green \* New putt putt golf course \* Outdoor MegaChess set & Giant Jenga \* Multiple state of the art fitness centers, sauna & steam rooms \* Tennis, Pickleball & Basketball courts, Bocce Ball... \* Corn Hole & Ping Pong \* 4 charcoal grills on-site \* Full-service marina with boat and jet ski rentals \* Free WiFi \* No pets \* Must be 25 years of age to book \*\*\*Parking passes must be purchased at the front desk upon your arrival. You can purchase two parking passes max. \*No oversized trucks, RVs, campers, boats or trailers allowed on property. PROUDLY MANAGED BY OCEAN SOUTH PROPERTIES ## Property amenities ### Beach - On the beach ### Pool/Spa - Communal pool - Heated pool - Hot tub - Indoor pool - Sauna ### Internet - Available in the condo: WiFi ### Parking and transport - Car recommended ### Kitchen - Coffee/tea maker - Cookware, dishware, and utensils - Dishwasher - Hob - Ice maker - Microwave - Oven - Refrigerator - Toaster ### Dining - Dining table ### Bedrooms - 2 bedrooms - Bedsheets provided - Sofa bed ### Bathroom - 2 bathrooms - Hair dryer - Shower - Towels provided ### Living spaces - Dining table - Living room ### Entertainment - TV with cable/satellite channels - Video games ### Outdoor areas - Balcony - Barbecue grill ### Laundry - Laundry facilities - Washing machine ### Comfort - Air conditioning - Heating ### Pets - No pets allowed ### Suitability/Accessibility - Lift - Smoke-free property ### Location highlights - Near a zoo - Near an outlet shopping centre - Near the bay - Near the ocean - On the waterfront ### Things to do - Arcade/game room - Bicycles - Gym - Heated pool - Tennis - Water park - Basketball nearby - Cycling nearby - Fishing nearby - Jet skiing nearby - Parasailing nearby - Snorkelling nearby - Surfing/bodyboarding nearby - Swimming nearby - Theme park nearby ### Safety features - Carbon monoxide detector not reported (host has not indicated whether there is a carbon monoxide detector on the property; consider bringing a portable detector) - Smoke detector (host has indicated there is a smoke detector on the property) - Fire extinguisher ### General - Bicycles - Property located in a resort - Unit size: 1,600 square feet ## Similar properties ![Room | Premium bedding, in-room safe, desk, laptop workspace](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/1000000/920000/915600/915518/9a9bfcab.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=469&h=201&p=1&q=medium) ### Perdido Beach Resort Orange Beach - On private beach - Pool - Kids’ pool - Free Wi-Fi 9.8 Exceptional 1,850 reviews [](https://www.expedia.co.uk/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-03-10&endDate=2026-03-11&selected=915518&PinnedHotelID=915518&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) ![Outdoor pool, pool loungers](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/15000000/14910000/14909700/14909628/296f23c9.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=469&h=201&p=1&q=medium) ### Best Western Premier The Tides Orange Beach - 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25 ### Check-out Check-out before 10:00 AM ### Special check-in instructions You will receive an email from the host with check-in and check-out instructions Information provided by the property may be translated using automated translation tools ### Rules Guest is required to sign a Rental Agreement. ### Pets Pets not allowed ### Children and extra beds Children are welcome Note from host: ALLOWED ### Events No events allowed ### Smoking Smoking is not permitted ## Important information ### You need to know This property is managed by a professional host. The provision of housing is linked to their trade, business or profession. Extra-person charges may apply and vary depending on property policy Government-issued photo identification and a credit card, debit card or cash deposit may be required at check-in for incidental charges Special requests are subject to availability upon check-in and may incur additional charges; special requests cannot be guaranteed On-site parties or group events are strictly prohibited Host has not indicated whether there is a carbon monoxide detector on the property; consider bringing a portable detector with you on the trip Host has indicated that there is a smoke detector on the property Safety features at this property include a fire extinguisher This property has outdoor spaces, such as balconies, patios and terraces, which may not be suitable for children; if you have any concerns, we recommend contacting the property prior to your arrival to confirm that they can accommodate you in a suitable room This property is managed through our partner, Vrbo. You will receive an email from Vrbo with a link to a Vrbo account, where you can change or cancel your reservation If you cancel your booking, you'll be subject to the host's cancellation policy. In accordance with UK consumer law, property booking services are not subject to the right of withdrawal. ### We should mention A car is recommended for transport to and from this property ### Property is also known as orp5b4d287x Huge Balcony With Beautiful Bay Views on the 5th Floor! ## About the area Located in Orange Beach East, a neighbourhood in Orange Beach, this condo is near theme parks and on the beach. Shoppers can check out The Wharf, while everyone can enjoy the natural beauty of Gulf State Park and Orange Beach Beaches. The Park at OWA and Orange Beach Indian and Sea Museum are also worth visiting. Jet skiing, snorkelling and parasailing offer great chances to get out on the surrounding water, or you can seek out an adventure with cycling nearby. [Visit our Orange Beach travel guide](https://www.expedia.co.uk/Orange-Beach.dx9136) [View more Condo rentals in Orange Beach](https://www.expedia.co.uk/Orange-Beach-Condos.d9136-aaCondos.Travel-Guide-Accommodation) ![Map](https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/staticmap?&size=660x330&map_id=3b266eb50d2997c6&zoom=13&markers=icon:https%3A%2F%2Fa.travel-assets.com%2Ftravel-assets-manager%2Feg-maps%2Fproperty.png%7C30.27931%2C-87.54631&channel=expedia-HotelInformation&maptype=roadmap&scale=1&key=AIzaSyCYjQus5kCufOpSj932jFoR_AJiL9yiwOw&signature=zIO0qAKsEvJHTFS2bhgJrCMmpD8=) Orange Beach, AL ### What's nearby - ![Gulf State Park](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/6097626/54585ff1-f97b-40d5-8938-1c1e036694b5.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=115.61&rh=65.03&ra=fit&q=high) Gulf State Park 3 min walk \- 0.2 miles - ![Sunset on Orange Beach Alabama with people in hazy fog](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/553248635976496927/dd18e791-22e1-4098-96e6-879c0088818b.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=115.61&rh=65.03&ra=fit&q=high) Orange Beach Beaches 8 min walk \- 0.5 miles - ![Orange Beach](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/9136/5e152ae8-6d1f-4cd6-a815-ed378ee6b417.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=115.61&rh=65.03&ra=fit&q=high) Perdido Beach Boulevard 14 min walk \- 0.8 miles - ![Aerial view of Perdido Pass and Robinson Island in Orange Beach, Alabama](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/553248635976198305/97d63a93-e6c8-47a2-a81a-b7206b1a8438.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=115.61&rh=65.03&ra=fit&q=high) Ono Island 1 min drive \- 0.2 miles - Alabama Point East 6 min walk \- 0.4 miles ### Getting around - Pensacola, FL (PNS-Pensacola Intl.) 55 min drive ### Restaurants - Flora-Bama Lounge, Package, and Oyster Bar 4 min drive - The Gulf 18 min walk - Cobalt the Restaurant 6 min walk - GTs On The Bay 8 min drive - Doc's Seafood Shack & Oyster Bar 7 min drive ## Frequently asked questions ### Does Huge Balcony with Bay & Gulf Views on the 5th Floor and a LAZY RIVER & CABANAS!! have a pool? ### Is Huge Balcony with Bay & Gulf Views on the 5th Floor and a LAZY RIVER & CABANAS!! pet-friendly? ### What time is check-in at Huge Balcony with Bay & Gulf Views on the 5th Floor and a LAZY RIVER & CABANAS!!? ### What time is check-out at Huge Balcony with Bay & Gulf Views on the 5th Floor and a LAZY RIVER & CABANAS!!? ### Where is Huge Balcony with Bay & Gulf Views on the 5th Floor and a LAZY RIVER & CABANAS!! located? ## Have a question? Beta Get instant answers with AI powered search of property information and reviews. Ask a question ## Huge Balcony with Bay & Gulf Views on the 5th Floor and a LAZY RIVER & CABANAS!! Reviews ## Reviews ### Exceptional All reviews shown are from real guest experiences. Only travellers who have booked a stay with us can submit a review. We verify reviews according to our guidelines and publish all reviews, positive or negative. [More information](https://www.expedia.co.uk/lp/b/content-guidelines) 10 - Excellent 84 8 - Good 14 6 - Okay 1 4 - Poor 0 2 - Terrible 0 ### 9.6 Cleanliness ### 9.8 Location ### 9.0 Property conditions & facilities ## Reviews ### 10/10 Excellent #### Alli M. 7 Nov 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy We loved the balcony view! We enjoyed the lazy river but wished it would have been heated. ![](https://a.travel-assets.com/ugc/hotel-reviews/efe4ba7c-0493-491a-bec9-2767e31053f7-1762523121833.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=204&ra=fit&q=high) ##### Alli M. Stayed 4 nights in Nov 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Allison B. 14 May 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Amazing resort! I brought my mom and grandmother for mother’s day and we had the best time! The room was in excellent condition. We really enjoyed the lazy river and pools. ##### Allison B. Stayed 5 nights in May 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Ronnie M. 26 Apr 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Great stay This is our second time at the Caribe and got the same room twice also. It has a great view in all directions. The new pools and lazy River were being built the last time we were there, they are great additions to the Resort. We had a Great time, thanks ##### Ronnie M. Stayed 6 nights in Apr 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Robin R. 7 Apr 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Great condo! Loved the view, the pool and lazy River! Super clean unit as well! Easy walk to Cobalt restaurant. Enjoyed our family vacation at Caribe! ##### Robin R. Stayed 5 nights in Mar 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Holly O. 26 Jul 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### The most beautiful and fun resort! My family of five enjoyed our stay at the Caribe! For reference we have 3 boys ages 6, 4, and 4 months. There was plenty to do and we had the best time. This condo is so beautiful and clean. It’s so spacious! The views of the pool, bay, and ocean made it even better. We will definitely be back and hope to stay in this condo. We took the trolley to the beach with off of our kids and it was an easy trip there. ##### Holly O. Stayed 5 nights in Jul 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Carol H. 4 Jun 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Beautiful property Beautiful property, easy check in and out process, all was good and we enjoyed the stay. ##### Carol H. Stayed 3 nights in Jun 2024 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Verified traveller 9 Nov 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Great time! We really enjoyed the property and all of the available things to do - pools, weight room, steam room, lazy river, putt-putt. We look forward to coming back, would definitely stay here again. ##### Verified traveller Stayed 5 nights in Nov 2024 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Jamie R. 14 Mar 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### First time at Caribe Enjoyed the location and amenities available in the property. The condo was clean and well cared for. Comfortable beds. Microwave wasn’t working but a substitute was provided. Overall a great property. ##### Jamie R. Stayed 5 nights in Mar 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### beverly s. 27 Nov 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Excellent furnishings! Great views! Beautiful furnishings! Great views of Gulf, Pools & Bay. Master Suite Bed definitely needs new mattress! ##### beverly s. Stayed 3 nights in Nov 2024 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Mary S. 23 Sept 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Just as you see in the pictures My friends and I stayed here for our annual girls trip we take each year. It was clean, easy to get to and the resort was awesome! You will be very happy if you choose this place to stay. ##### Mary S. Stayed 3 nights in Sep 2024 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Stacy P. 12 Aug 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Gorgeous Beautiful and updated condo. Great location for kids that need a pool versus the ocean. ##### Stacy P. Stayed 2 nights in Aug 2023 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Patricia H. 15 Sept 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Great condo Communication from booking to check out was outstanding and so easy to check in. Condo was beautiful and beds were comfortable. The only suggestion I could make is to have type of USB ports for those of us who forget to bring adapters. ##### Patricia H. Stayed 7 nights in Sep 2024 ### 10/10 Excellent #### JIll B., Ponchatoula, LA 27 Sept 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Girl Trip This condo was fabulous!!! We had views of the beach, pool and the bay. It was so comfortable. Will definitely rent next year!!! ##### JIll B. Stayed 4 nights in Sep 2023 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Pam P. 27 May 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Outstanding Pictures did not do it justice. Beautiful place with an amazing balcony for perfect views. ##### Pam P. Stayed 2 nights in May 2024 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Heather B. 22 Oct 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Great location After a long drive from OK, it was nice to be centrally located and not have to drive again until we left for home. We did inshore fishing, a dolphin cruise, and jet skis all within walking distance of the condo. The condo it self was great too and it was amazing to sleep with the doors open. We will be back ##### Heather B. Stayed 5 nights in Oct 2023 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Todd H. 25 Nov 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Thanksgiving Getaway My family enjoys staying at the Caribe in Orange Beach during the Thanksgiving break. The kids love the indoor pool while my wife and I hop in the sauna for some relaxation. The condo is beautiful and large enough for our family of 5\. I find the view from the balcony as a tranquil retreat while listening to southern blues music. Highly recommend booking at this Caribe condo. ##### Todd H. Stayed 4 nights in Nov 2023 ### 8/10 Good #### Gina V. 17 Oct 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Very nice accommodations Great location, beautiful condo. Farther from the beach than I realized but the trolley was prompt and a fun ride. The only negative was the secondary bedroom. The bed was hard as a rock and the bright light from the exterior hallway made the room unusable. Thankfully the couch was super comfortable. ##### Gina V. Stayed 4 nights in Oct 2023 ### 8/10 Good #### michael c. 2 Dec 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Nice place Sunset pouring into the living room was awesome, nice a spacious, plenty of room for 4 people. Room is right by the elevator and stairway, plenty of amenities around the facility. However, the hot tub in the master bath would not hold water, so we didn't get to use it. The steam room by the pool was not working either. Cleaning service could stand to be a little more detailed, but overall it was good. We plan to stay there again. ##### michael c. Stayed 5 nights in Nov 2024 ### 8/10 Good #### Holly L. 26 Dec 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Fantastic spot for families We really enjoyed our stay here. Check in was easy. Front desk and security/gate staff were helpful. Lots to do on site: a good restaurant (Cobalt), pickleball, tennis, basketball, putt putt, nice walk to the beach and along the canal, indoor pools with a little slide that my 4 year old loved. The pools, slides, and lazy river look great but this was a December trip so it was too cold to try them out. The condo has a fantastic view from a large balcony. We didn’t have any need to contact the property manager or owners. Everything went smoothly. Mattresses are a bit too firm for me and my husband’s taste but the kids slept fine. We would definitely stay at the Caribe again and we would use this unit again too. ##### Holly L. Stayed 3 nights in Dec 2024 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Misty W. 20 May 2024 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### Excellent Host It was such an amazing property, the pics do not do it justice! This condo has beautiful views of both the bay & the gulf. So many pools to choice from & the lazy river was the older adults favorite spot. Would highly recommend. The downside & has nothing to donwith the condo but the property, 1 of the pools were down, you have to go up to lazy river & there is the slightest ramp w/no warning & my daughter twisted her ankel pretty bad. That and the parking paying 25 you got 1 set spot the. Another 25 & very limited parking. It was just small things the property should look into, but like I said the condo was better than advertised!! ##### Misty W. Stayed 4 nights in May 2024 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Heather V. 17 Oct 2023 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy #### The best! This was our first time staying at the Caribe Resort. The communication from Ocean South Properties was excellent. The emails had clear, thorough instructions pertaining to check in/ check out and other additional information needed. The property was well maintained and clean. There was construction/ renovating going on at the resort but it was never a distraction during our stay. Our rental was exactly as pictured and described on the VRBO app. The rental is close to the elevator but just far enough away to not hear noise from people walking in and out of elevator area. Our access to the designated parking spot, gym and pools was close. The rooms were big, beautifully furnished and met our every need. The balcony was huge and it was great eating breakfast watching either the ocean, the pools or watch the boats on the bay. All the appliances worked , the kitchen was stocked with amenities needed. The ice machine at the bar area was a nice feature for filling our cups or small cooler to take poolside. During our stay we received emails checking to see if we needed anything. The check out process was super simple. We had no complaints at all. We had a great time and would definitely rent this property again! ##### Heather V. Stayed 4 nights in Oct 2023 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Caroline H. 20 Nov 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy Great unit, incredible view. Very convenient location. ##### Caroline H. Stayed 5 nights in Nov 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Nancy W. 26 Oct 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy We enjoyed our stay in Caribe D516\. The unit was very clean and comfortable and the views of the beach and the bay were amazing! We had a few minor issues which were promptly addressed. ##### Nancy W. Stayed 7 nights in Oct 2025 ### 10/10 Excellent #### Erica N. 21 Jul 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, check-in, communication, location, listing accuracy This place was so beautiful. It looked just like the pictures and it was very clean and the view was everything. 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