Title: Ruka Kizel Reviews, Deals & Photos 2026 - Expedia.co.uk [See all properties](http://www.expedia.co.uk/Hotel-Search?regionId=&selected=120555188&adults=2&children=&sort=RECOMMENDED&useRewards=false&semdtl=&userIntent=&vip=false) Entire cabin # Ruka Kizel Cabin in Pucón ## Photo gallery for Ruka Kizel ![Front of property - Ruka Kizel (Pucon)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/121000000/120560000/120555200/120555188/28660262.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=598&ra=fit) ![Panoramic Bungalow, Mountain View | Terrace/patio - Ruka Kizel (Pucon)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/121000000/120560000/120555200/120555188/74ac96d7.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) ![Front of property - Ruka Kizel (Pucon)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/121000000/120560000/120555200/120555188/f08fffd6.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) ![Panoramic Bungalow, Mountain View | Private kitchen - Ruka Kizel (Pucon)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/121000000/120560000/120555200/120555188/c1892ed6.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) ![Panoramic Bungalow, Mountain View | Living area - Ruka Kizel (Pucon)](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/121000000/120560000/120555200/120555188/7405fd10.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=297&ra=fit) - Overview - Location - Prices - Amenities - Policies At Ruka Kizel, you can look forward to a terrace, a firepit and a garden. In addition to laundry facilities and an outdoor entertainment area, guests can connect to free in-room WiFi, with a speed of 250+ Mbps (good for 3–5 people or up to 10 devices). ## Reviews 8.0 Very good ## Popular amenities - Free Wi-Fi - Laundry room - Outdoor space - Barbecue grill £67 4 Mar - 5 Mar ## Room options ### Check availability for these dates Tonight [Feb 20 - Feb 21](https://www.expedia.co.uk/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-02-20&endDate=2026-02-21&selected=120555188&PinnedHotelID=120555188&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) [](https://www.expedia.co.uk/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-02-20&endDate=2026-02-21&selected=120555188&PinnedHotelID=120555188&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) Tomorrow [Feb 21 - Feb 22](https://www.expedia.co.uk/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-02-21&endDate=2026-02-22&selected=120555188&PinnedHotelID=120555188&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) [](https://www.expedia.co.uk/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-02-21&endDate=2026-02-22&selected=120555188&PinnedHotelID=120555188&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) This weekend [Feb 20 - Feb 22](https://www.expedia.co.uk/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-02-20&endDate=2026-02-22&selected=120555188&PinnedHotelID=120555188&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) [](https://www.expedia.co.uk/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-02-20&endDate=2026-02-22&selected=120555188&PinnedHotelID=120555188&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) Next weekend [Feb 27 - Mar 1](https://www.expedia.co.uk/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-02-27&endDate=2026-03-01&selected=120555188&PinnedHotelID=120555188&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) [](https://www.expedia.co.uk/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-02-27&endDate=2026-03-01&selected=120555188&PinnedHotelID=120555188&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) All rooms 3+ beds 2 beds Showing 2 of 2 rooms ### View all photos for Panoramic Bungalow, Mountain View ![Panoramic Bungalow, Mountain View | Private kitchen](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/121000000/120560000/120555200/120555188/c1892ed6.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=1200&h=800&quality=medium) ### Panoramic Bungalow, Mountain View ### Highlights Balcony or patio Separate dining area Heating Kitchenette Mini-fridge Separate bedroom Private bathroom Hairdryer - Mountain view - 700 sq ft - 1 bedroom - Sleeps 4 - 1 King Bed, 1 Single Bed and 1 Double Sofa Bed ### View all photos for Design Bungalow, Mountain View ![Design Bungalow, Mountain View | Living area](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/121000000/120560000/120555200/120555188/bacf8460.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=1200&h=800&quality=medium) ### Design Bungalow, Mountain View ### Highlights Furnished balcony Separate dining area Heating Kitchenette Mini-fridge Separate bedroom Private bathroom Hairdryer - Mountain view - 700 sq ft - 1 bedroom - Sleeps 4 - 1 King Bed and 1 Large Single Trundle Bed ![Mod logo](https://a.travel-assets.com/pricing-claim/sparkle_dark.svg) Sign in to view eligible discounts and perks. 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[Visit our Pucón travel guide](https://www.expedia.co.uk/Pucon.dx500223) [View more Cabin rentals in Pucón](https://www.expedia.co.uk/Pucon-Cabins.d500223-aaCabins.Travel-Guide-Accommodation) ![Map](https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/staticmap?&size=660x330&map_id=3b266eb50d2997c6&zoom=13&markers=icon:https%3A%2F%2Fa.travel-assets.com%2Ftravel-assets-manager%2Feg-maps%2Fproperty.png%7C-39.24229%2C-71.81466&channel=expedia-HotelInformation&maptype=roadmap&scale=1&key=AIzaSyCYjQus5kCufOpSj932jFoR_AJiL9yiwOw&signature=Ij9nwBuO9nCMP47R_C1j8LeGiJI=) Carileufu, 26, Pucon, Araucanía, 4920000 ### What's nearby - ![Huerquehue National Park which includes a lake or waterhole, landscape views and tranquil scenes](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/6101296/04a19e23-bc28-495d-9366-9946938139e0.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=115.61&rh=65.03&ra=fit&q=high) Huerquehue National Park 13 min drive \- 7.5 miles - ![Villarrica National Park showing tranquil scenes, snow and mountains](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/6101292/cbc2df01-92de-47b4-87bc-796e0d22f653.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=115.61&rh=65.03&ra=fit&q=high) Villarrica National Park 17 min drive \- 12.4 miles - Lake Caburgua 10 min drive \- 5.2 miles - Río Liucura Valley 17 min drive \- 12.4 miles - Cascadas de Rio Turbio 18 min drive \- 13.2 miles ### Getting around - Valdivia (ZAL-Pichoy) 128 min drive ### Restaurants - cafeteria Amankay 6 min drive - Restaurant Los Robles 7 min drive - Onas 19 min drive - Rayen De Mahuida 11 min drive - Rayen Mahuida 3 min drive ## About this property ### Entire place You'll have the entire cabin to yourself and will only share it with other guests in your party. ### Ruka Kizel Cabin in Pucón Laundry facilities, a garden and charcoal grills are available at this cabin. WiFi in public areas is free. Other amenities include a picnic area. All 10 cabins offer free WiFi. Ruka Kizel offers 10 accommodations. This Pucón cabin provides complimentary wireless Internet access, with a speed of 250+ Mbps (good for 3–5 people or up to 10 devices). The recreational activities listed below are available either on-site or nearby; fees may apply. ## Similar properties ![Mountain view](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/100000000/99490000/99484200/99484117/5d44da06.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=469&h=201&p=1&q=medium) ### Hotel Vientos del Sur Pucón - Breakfast included - Parking included - Free Wi-Fi - Laundry room 9.0 Wonderful 47 reviews £65 16 Mar - 17 Mar [](https://www.expedia.co.uk/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-03-16&endDate=2026-03-17&selected=99484117&PinnedHotelID=99484117&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) ![Exterior](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/114000000/113640000/113638500/113638406/a47d2941.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=469&h=201&p=1&q=medium) ### hotel salto del carileufu Pucon - On private beach - Pool - Hot tub - Breakfast included 8.6 Excellent 9 reviews £105 21 Mar - 22 Mar [](https://www.expedia.co.uk/Hotel-Search?startDate=2026-03-21&endDate=2026-03-22&selected=113638406&PinnedHotelID=113638406&HadPinnedHotel=true®ionId=-1&adults=2) ![Hiking](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/21000000/20480000/20477100/20477058/9a452257.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=469&h=201&p=1&q=medium) ### Hostal Graciela Pucón - 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Beach umbrellas ### Ski - Close to skiing - Ski area nearby - Ski runs nearby - Snowboarding nearby ### Pool/Spa - Hot springs nearby ### Internet - Available in the cabin: Free WiFi - Available in some public areas: Free WiFi ### Parking and transport - Beach shuttle (surcharge) - Onsite parking includes off-street options ### Dining - Champagne service ### Outdoor areas - Charcoal grill - Firepit - Garden - Outdoor entertainment area - Outdoor furniture - Picnic area - Terrace ### Laundry - Laundry facilities ### Pets - No pets allowed ### Suitability/Accessibility - No lift ### Services and conveniences - Luggage storage ### Location highlights - In a national park - In a rural location - In the mountains - Near a health/beauty spa - Near a hospital - Near an outlet shopping centre - Near the bay - Near the boardwalk/promenade ### Things to do - Helicopter/aeroplane tours - Casino nearby - Ecotours nearby - Hiking/biking trails nearby - Horseback riding nearby - Hunting nearby - Mountain biking nearby - Mountain climbing nearby - Rock climbing nearby - Skydiving nearby - Spelunking nearby - Theme park nearby - Ziplining nearby ### Safety features - Carbon monoxide detector not reported (host has not indicated whether there is a carbon monoxide detector on the property; consider bringing a portable detector) - Smoke detector not reported (host has not indicated whether there is a smoke detector on the property) ### General - 10 units - Garden ## Policies ### Check-in Check-in start time: 4:00 PM; check-in end time: 9:30 PM Late check-in subject to availability Minimum check-in age - 18 ### Check-out Check-out before noon ### Special check-in instructions There is no front desk at this property Guests must contact the property in advance for check-in instructions; your host will greet you To make arrangements for check-in please contact the property at least 48 hours before arrival using the information on the booking confirmation If you are planning to arrive after 4:00 PM please contact the property in advance using the information on the booking confirmation Information provided by the property may be translated using automated translation tools ### Access methods Host will greet you ### Pets Pets not allowed ### Children and extra beds Children are welcome ### Payment types at the property ## Important information ### Fees You'll be asked to pay the following charges at the property. Fees may include applicable taxes: - You may be required to pay the following charge at the property: Chile value-added tax (VAT) at 19%. A VAT exemption is available to travellers who present a valid passport and tourist visa showing that they are not a resident of Chile and who pay in foreign currency (e.g. USD). We have included all charges provided to us by the property. ### You need to know This property is managed by a private host (a party not acting within their trade, business or profession). EU consumer law, including the right of withdrawal, will not apply to your booking. The cancellation policy set by the private host will cover your booking. Extra-person charges may apply and vary depending on property policy Government-issued photo identification and a credit card, debit card or cash deposit may be required at check-in for incidental charges Special requests are subject to availability upon check-in and may incur additional charges; special requests cannot be guaranteed This property accepts credit cards, debit cards and cash Host has not indicated whether there is a carbon monoxide detector on the property; consider bringing a portable detector with you on the trip Host has not indicated whether there is a smoke detector on the property This property has outdoor spaces, such as balconies, patios and terraces, which may not be suitable for children; if you have any concerns, we recommend contacting the property prior to your arrival to confirm that they can accommodate you in a suitable room Property Registration Number 327411429, 327411332 ### We should mention This property does not have any lifts ## Frequently asked questions ### Is Ruka Kizel pet-friendly? ### How much does it cost to stay at Ruka Kizel? ### What time is check-in at Ruka Kizel? ### What time is check-out at Ruka Kizel? ### Where is Ruka Kizel located? ## Have a question? Beta Get instant answers with AI powered search of property information and reviews. Ask a question ## Reviews ## Ruka Kizel Reviews 8.0 ### Very good All reviews shown are from real guest experiences. Only travellers who have booked a stay with us can submit a review. We verify reviews according to our guidelines and publish all reviews, positive or negative.[More information](https://www.expedia.co.uk/lp/b/content-guidelines) ### 10 Cleanliness ### 7.0 Amenities ### 10 Property conditions & facilities 10 - Excellent 1 8 - Good 0 6 - Okay 1 4 - Poor 0 2 - Terrible 0 ## Reviews ### 10/10 Excellent #### Ali 10 Nov 2025 Liked: Cleanliness, amenities, property conditions & facilities, communication Our stay at Alejandro’s cabin was unforgettable. The place is peaceful, surrounded by beautiful nature, and very clean and cozy. Alejandro is a kind and genuine host who made us feel like family. He even played a traditional Mapuche instrument (Trutruka) when we left — a moment we’ll never forget. Highly recommend this unique experience in southern Chile! ![](https://a.travel-assets.com/ugc/hotel-reviews/1225b153-3d80-4b12-aaff-f0c70a7f7a35-1762734317695.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=204&ra=fit&q=high) ![](https://a.travel-assets.com/ugc/hotel-reviews/1d3cf7cd-7cfc-4bde-bf77-721db6c64dc3-1762734318334.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=204&ra=fit&q=high) ![](https://a.travel-assets.com/ugc/hotel-reviews/c69c478e-e7e0-4f33-a62e-1909bc7da265-1762734318604.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=204&ra=fit&q=high) ##### Ali Stayed 1 night in Nov 2025 ### 6/10 Okay #### Juan 19 Feb 2026 Liked: Cleanliness, property conditions & facilities, communication Disliked: Amenities The cabin is nice the host very nice. No bathroom towel it’s was very cold At Night and there was a fire place box. With only 3 Logs that were Too big To light with out kindling. Maybe a bit more attention to detail. 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