Title: Knysna Waterfront in Knysna Central | Expedia.co.uk [Knysna Waterfront Hotels](https://expedia.co.uk/Knysna-Waterfront-Hotels.0-l553248621563222958-0.Travel-Guide-Filter-Hotels)[Knysna Waterfront Car Hire](https://expedia.co.uk/Compare-Cheap-Car-Hire-In-Knysna-Waterfront.d553248621563222958.Car-Hire-Guide)[Knysna Central Holidays](https://expedia.co.uk/Knysna-Central.d553248635975438341.Holidays-City-Breaks) # Knysna Waterfront ![Sunset at the waterfront in Knysna. The waterfront area is one of the best places to eat in Knysna, and our two favorite restaurants are Caffe Mario (Italian) and 34 South (little bit of everything and also great oysters!).](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/601501/6844854c-faa7-4021-929f-f4a9d1dad5e2.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=1040&h=580&q=mediumHigh) ![Sunset at the waterfront in Knysna. The waterfront area is one of the best places to eat in Knysna, and our two favorite restaurants are Caffe Mario (Italian) and 34 South (little bit of everything and also great oysters!).](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/601501/6844854c-faa7-4021-929f-f4a9d1dad5e2.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=1040&h=580&q=mediumHigh) ## Visit Knysna Waterfront Activities --- --- ## Plan a trip to see Knysna Waterfront Price found within the past 48 hours. Click for updated prices. ![Lanzerac Hotel](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/2000000/1180000/1179800/1179790/2b523f2c_y.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=900&h=506&q=mediumHigh) ### Lanzerac Hotel £2,653 per person 1 Apr - 7 Apr found 19 hours ago Return direct flight included London (LHR) to Cape Town (CPT) 9.2/10 Wonderful! (103 reviews) A beautiful place to stay with excellent service Reviewed on 2 Dec 2025 ![Delaire Graff Lodges & Spa](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/5000000/4890000/4886800/4886712/044ebed5_y.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=900&h=506&q=mediumHigh) ### Delaire Graff Lodges & Spa Save 100% on your flight £5,820 per person 1 Apr - 7 Apr found 19 hours ago Return direct flight included London (LHR) to Cape Town (CPT) 9.6/10 Exceptional! (47 reviews) The best of the places we’ve stayed in the Stellenbosch area over the past 10 years Reviewed on 26 Sept 2024 ![Cape Cadogan Boutique Hotel](https://images.trvl-media.com/lodging/4000000/3030000/3024600/3024594/ab618e49_y.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=900&h=506&q=mediumHigh) ### Cape Cadogan Boutique Hotel Cape Town City Centre £3,354 per person 1 Apr - 7 Apr found 19 hours ago Return direct flight included London (LHR) to Cape Town (CPT) 9.6/10 Exceptional! (51 reviews) Outstanding staff, continuously offering to be helpful. Good location, on a relatively quiet street just off of walkable Kloof Street but not in an area teeming with tourists. Afternoon tea and sweets. Restaurant in adjacent building with indoor and outdoor seating. No plans to return to Cape Town but would definitely stay here again. Reviewed on 6 Feb 2026 ### Tours & day trips [See all 23 activities](https://expedia.co.uk/things-to-do/search?&rid=553248621563222958&location=Knysna+Waterfront&filter.categories=ToursDayTrips) ![Knysna: Scenic Cruise Aboard a Luxury Lounge Cruiser](https://mediaim.expedia.com/localexpert/48238332/7b2ad80a-87d9-4bf1-b259-1a464c3fc206.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=500&rh=280) ### Knysna: Scenic Cruise Aboard a Luxury Lounge Cruiser 1h 20m 10/10 7 GetYourGuide reviews Free cancellation available £21 includes taxes & fees per adult [](https://www.expedia.co.uk/things-to-do/knysna-scenic-cruise-aboard-a-luxury-lounge-cruiser.a48238332.activity-details?&rid=553248621563222958&location=Knysna+Waterfront&swp=off) ![Knysna Lagoon: Boat Cruise with Oyster & White Wine Tasting](https://mediaim.expedia.com/localexpert/5091950/fb9f088b-5714-4955-b686-5ae1e6acb073.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=500&rh=280) ### Knysna Lagoon: Boat Cruise with Oyster & White Wine Tasting 1h 30m 9.4/10 24 GetYourGuide reviews Free cancellation available £34 includes taxes & fees per adult [](https://www.expedia.co.uk/things-to-do/knysna-lagoon-boat-cruise-and-oyster-tour-with-tastings.a5091950.activity-details?&rid=553248621563222958&location=Knysna+Waterfront&swp=off) ![Private Garden Route Tour from Cape Town with Game Drive](https://mediaim.expedia.com/localexpert/1146675/716c1aa1-3e09-45b9-957b-1dde4cf71258.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=500&rh=280) ### Private Garden Route Tour from Cape Town with Game Drive 5d Free cancellation available ~~£592~~£414 includes taxes & fees per adult [](https://www.expedia.co.uk/things-to-do/private-garden-route-tour-from-cape-town-with-game-drive.a1146675.activity-details?&rid=553248621563222958&location=Knysna+Waterfront&swp=off) ![Private Garden Route Tours with Safari and Cape Point](https://mediaim.expedia.com/localexpert/3815234/c88b2040-ae88-433b-9d49-0b9333228f9e.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=500&rh=280) ### Private Garden Route Tours with Safari and Cape Point 5d Free cancellation available ~~£500~~£385 includes taxes & fees per adult [](https://www.expedia.co.uk/things-to-do/private-garden-route-tours-with-safari-and-cape-point.a3815234.activity-details?&rid=553248621563222958&location=Knysna+Waterfront&swp=off) ![Knysna: 75-Minute Lagoon Boat Cruise](https://mediaim.expedia.com/localexpert/4586549/1687d372-6514-4be9-a949-6b3ec1c1fabf.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=500&rh=280) ### Knysna: 75-Minute Lagoon Boat Cruise 1h 15m 9.4/10 138 GetYourGuide reviews Free cancellation available £23 includes taxes & fees per adult [](https://www.expedia.co.uk/things-to-do/knysna-75-minute-lagoon-boat-cruise.a4586549.activity-details?&rid=553248621563222958&location=Knysna+Waterfront&swp=off) ![4 Day Small Group Garden Route Tour From Cape Town](https://mediaim.expedia.com/localexpert/48179476/0c010b4d-bdde-4aa5-bccf-fbc3c10efed3.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=500&rh=280) ### 4 Day Small Group Garden Route Tour From Cape Town 4d Free cancellation available £1,481 includes taxes & fees per adult\* \*Get lower prices by selecting more than 2 adults [](https://www.expedia.co.uk/things-to-do/4-day-small-group-garden-route-tour-from-cape-town.a48179476.activity-details?&rid=553248621563222958&location=Knysna+Waterfront&swp=off) ![knysna lagoon fishing charter](https://mediaim.expedia.com/localexpert/48188365/d56b3c96-d9e3-4fd4-8053-89b442b0db83.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=500&rh=280) ### knysna lagoon fishing charter 4h 10/10 1 GetYourGuide review Free cancellation available £73 includes taxes & fees per adult [](https://www.expedia.co.uk/things-to-do/knysna-lagoon-fishing-charter.a48188365.activity-details?&rid=553248621563222958&location=Knysna+Waterfront&swp=off) ![Knysna: #1 Private Scenic Cruise Aboard a Luxury Catamaran](https://mediaim.expedia.com/localexpert/48308637/c83c4b81-6b73-4ac2-aa6b-26c43fca5eaa.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=500&rh=280) ### Knysna: #1 Private Scenic Cruise Aboard a Luxury Catamaran 1h 40m Free cancellation available £481 includes taxes & fees per traveller\* \*Get lower prices by selecting more than 2 adults [](https://www.expedia.co.uk/things-to-do/knysna-1-private-scenic-cruise-aboard-a-luxury-catamaran.a48308637.activity-details?&rid=553248621563222958&location=Knysna+Waterfront&swp=off) ![Olympic Flame Motor Yacht | Private Charter](https://mediaim.expedia.com/localexpert/47040357/f8513445-dd9a-4aef-8d4e-0cc4c31e1e23.jpg?impolicy=resizecrop&rw=500&rh=280) ### Olympic Flame Motor Yacht | Private Charter 1h 15m 10/10 1 Viator review Free cancellation available £321 includes taxes & fees per traveller\* \*Get lower prices by selecting more than 2 adults [](https://www.expedia.co.uk/things-to-do/cruise-sushi-combo-on-the-knysna-lagoon.a47040357.activity-details?&rid=553248621563222958&location=Knysna+Waterfront&swp=off) ![Knysna Kayak Hire - 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[](https://expedia.co.uk/Knysna-Quays-Knysna.d6090895.Attraction) ![Knysna featuring landscape views, general coastal views and mountains](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/553248621532481279/672e17c4-c615-46e7-8747-229594ead6ab.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=900&h=506&q=mediumHigh) #### Knysna Lagoon 4.5/5(18 reviews) Sheltered from the rough sea swells by two rugged headlands, this brilliantly blue lagoon is a boating and watersports hotspot. [](https://expedia.co.uk/Knysna-Lagoon-Knysna.d553248621532481279.Attraction) ![Knysna featuring landscape views, mist or fog and rocky coastline](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/553248626458709847/c7800255-da1e-44c4-bf1c-d5db4cd0e074.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=900&h=506&q=mediumHigh) #### Eastern Head View Point 5/5(10 reviews) Enjoy spectacular views over the brilliantly blue Knysna Lagoon and the sheltering sandstone bluffs, and watch waves crash into the rocks at this cliff-top lookout. [](https://expedia.co.uk/Eastern-Head-View-Point-Knysna.d553248626458709847.Attraction) ![Great 9km beach walk to buffalo bay and back ](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/601501/c09606f2-7c2f-4664-b98a-32a41832bf57.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=900&h=506&q=mediumHigh) #### Brenton Beach 4.5/5(8 reviews) Why not spend a care-free afternoon at Brenton Beach during your travels in Knysna? You can seek out the golf courses while in the area. [](https://expedia.co.uk/Brenton-Beach-Knysna.d553248621532481294.Attraction) ![Knysna](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/553248635971342297/93ea4557-024f-4b82-b037-150e2179ab51.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=900&h=506&q=mediumHigh) #### Buffalo Bay Beach 2/5(1 review) Why not spend a lazy afternoon at Buffalo Bay Beach during your trip to Knysna? You can seek out the golf courses while in the area. [](https://expedia.co.uk/Buffalo-Bay-Beach-Knysna.d553248635971342297.Attraction) ![Outeniqua Transport Museum which includes interior views and heritage elements](https://images.trvl-media.com/place/553248621532481288/3a983742-1f27-431c-ba57-b1fc9744aa51.jpg?impolicy=fcrop&w=900&h=506&q=mediumHigh) #### Outeniqua Transport Museum Have fun with all the family browsing this museum’s impressive array of historic steam trains and vintage cars, along with photographs and other artifacts. 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